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    Hit ‘em with the juice

    Submitted by admin on Fri, 12/02/2011 - 17:03
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    Remember Lime? Now it’s back, and it’s better than ever. In fact, it’s every bit as good as Vanilla, but it also includes that extra hardware support you know and love from Flow, but with the bleeding edge freshness you got from Vanilla.

    It’s 338 days late, sure, but with good reason. The version that was in progress back then was a hand-built image, that wouldn’t be updated daily. The current system will get freshly baked each day into an image that has the supreme hardware support, but also includes any new features and tweaks that appeared that day in Vanilla too.

    Vastly improved hardware support!

    Lime enjoys vastly improved hardware support compared to that of Vanilla. Here’s a list of the improvements in hardware support:

    • Broadcom WiFi – BCM43XX
    • Ralink WiFi – RT24XX, RT28XX, RT30XX
    • Realtek WiFi – R8187SE, R8712U, RTL73, RTL8180, RTL8187, RTL8192XX
    • nVidia GPUs – 6 series and newer

    PAE requirement removed

    If you were one of the unlucky folks to have a device that didn’t support a PAE kernel, you’re in luck, this is no longer a requirement with Lime!

    Extra plugins as standard!

    Need your fix of Java? Java is now fully supported with Lime! More plugins coming very soon!

    You decide what gets added!

    These are just a few of the changes featured in Lime, but there’s more! If there’s a piece of hardware that we don’t support where a Linux driver exists but isn’t being shipped, let me know and I’ll likely add it! Tweet me information regarding this. Please don’t post suggestions as comments to this post, as I don’t read them as regularly.

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    Chromium OS for Macbook Air

    Submitted by admin on Tue, 07/19/2011 - 12:24
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    I know I’m rather late with this, but I did promise everyone who helped me to buy a Macbook Air that I’d get Chromium OS running on it: so I did and it’s pretty awesome.

    Every piece of hardware works except for the Bluetooth (because Bluetooth isn’t supported by Chromium OS yet). So WiFi works, graphics are fully accelerated via nVidia’s drivers, screen brightness controls work, sound works, touchpad works. Basically everything works. The touchpad drivers could use some tweaking, as scrolling is currently painfully slow, but that’s about the only issue I can think of. Boot time is around 22 seconds to the login screen, most of which is wasted by Apple’s EFI implementation, as once control is passed to the kernel, the boot only takes a further 6-7 seconds thanks to the fast SSD inside the Air. Battery life is probably slightly better than that of OS X.

    I’ve only tested this on an 11″ model of the Air (MacbookAir3,1), since that’s all I have, but I should think it’d work without issue on the 13″ version (MacbookAir3,2) too. I’ve also not tested previous generations of the Macbook Air, but I suspect they’ll work too. Infact, this image will probably work on quite a number of nVidia-based Macbook/Macbook Pro machines. I won’t be supporting anything but the MacbookAir3,1 and MacbookAir3,2 but if it just happens to work for you on something else, great!

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    ChromeVox: Built-In Spoken Feedback For Chrome OS

    Submitted by admin on Thu, 05/19/2011 - 10:39
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    Cross posted at the Google Code blog

    We recently unveiled ChromeVox — a built-in screen reader for Chrome OS — during Google I/O 2011. This is an early developer beta that is designed to help authors of web applications come up to speed with platform accessibility on Chrome OS.

    ChromeVox is built as a Chrome extension — this means that unlike most accessibility software, it is built using only web technologies like HTML5, CSS and Javascript. As the built-in accessibility solution for Chrome OS, it can help users with special needs access modern web apps, including those that utilize W3C ARIA (Access to Rich Internet Applications) to provide a rich, desktop-like experience.

    ChromeVox leverages two of Chrome's experimental extension APIs, the experimental.tts API for cross-platform text-to-speech, and the experimental.accessibility API that lets an extension listen for accessibility events in Chrome's menus and toolbars. In turn, ChromeVox exposes a simple screen reader API to web developers who wish to further customize the ChromeVox user experience. Thus, within your application, you can:

    • Automatically generate spoken messages and earcons.
    • Set ChromeVox to synchronize with your application's current focus.

    ChromeVox also comes with an interactive online tutorial that demonstrates how users of spoken feedback interact with webpages. Examples range from static content to interactive applications. You can test these same navigation techniques within your own applications to quickly verify users can reach all portions of your application using the keyboard and obtain meaningful feedback. You can then annotate your application with the necessary ARIA properties and other accessibility enhancements to ensure that blind and visually impaired users gain complete access to your application. Please see our Google I/O 2011 talk for more.

    Details on enabling accessibility in Chrome OS can be found on the Accessibility help page, and the Chrome extension is available for download from our Wiki page. For now, ChromeVox is targeted at end-users on Chrome OS, but it may also prove a useful tool to web developers using Chrome on all major platforms. We welcome your feedback via our Open Source project website at http://google-axs-chrome.googlecode.com.

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    Chromium OS? In my VirtualBox?

    Submitted by admin on Sun, 03/13/2011 - 14:03
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    It’s more likely than you think. Starting today, the Vanilla build page will be building both VirtualBox and VMWare images every day along with the USB image. This means you can test out the latest changes without needing to burn a copy to a USB stick. Using these images is super easy, and isn’t reliant on your device being compatible! For the VirtualBox downloads, you get a VDI file, or a VirtualBox Disk Image. To use this, just create a new virtual machine in VirtualBox, and when it asks whether you want to create a new hard drive or use an existing one, point it to the VDI file you downloaded and extracted. When asked how much memory you’d like to assign, 2GB is ideal, but 1GB should work fine. Using the VMWare downloads is even easier! Simply download, install VMWare Player and then double click the VMX file in the archive you downloaded.

    What could make this better? What if the images received automatic updates daily, without needing to download a whole new image? Turns out, they do! At long last, the Vanilla AU service has returned. This is still in a testing stage really and it might break at a moments notice, but if you’ve got any problems with AU, let me know via Twitter and I’ll try to fix any issues you can find. The AU service also works for USB images, too. Some users running recent Vanilla images might be offered an update automatically, but if you’re not, simply download today’s image (13th March 2011), and you’ll be ready to receive updates.

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    Hexxeh's Blog

    Submitted by admin on Sun, 02/06/2011 - 17:29
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    GSM on Cr-48

    Submitted by admin on Fri, 02/04/2011 - 11:09
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    Turns out a recent update to ChromeOS has added GSM support for the Gobi 3G chip that’s in the Cr-48, and it’s working just great.

     
     

    Since some people seem to want to run their Cr-48 on AT&T and so on, I figured I should share. Turns out, it’s really easy to enable. You need to be in developer mode, but that’s pretty much the only requirement. As usual, you do this totally at your own risk and I’m not responsible for anything that might go wrong. Basically, the standard disclaimer crap. With that said, here’s the howto:

     
    1. Pop your SIM card into the slot under the battery (must be a full-size SIM, microSIMs you’ll just lose in there, fine if you use an adaptor though)
    2. Make sure you’ve enabled developer mode – do this by flipping the switch under your battery
    3. Once you’re booted into developer mode and logged in, press Control-Alt-T
    4. This opens crosh, a limited command shell. Since we’re in developer mode, we can get a full shell. Type the word shell and press enter.
    5. You’ll get a shell that starts with ‘chronos@localhost / $’. Once you’ve got this, we can type in the command that flips over to GSM.
    6. Type the following command: modem_set_carrier “Generic UMTS”
    7. Wait a couple of minutes, then you can exit the shell by typing exit twice.
    8. Your 3G should be usable assuming you have an active service plan on that SIM card, and that ChromeOS knows your APN settings.

    This is all totally unfinished right now, I just saw that the changes had shipped in a recent update and decided to see if they worked, turns out they do. However, there are a few drawbacks:

    • Your APN details have to be part of a hardcoded list list in flimflam, you can see this list here.
    • Your carrier name won’t appear in the UI, nor will any usage details. Don’t complain if you run up a huge bill, same deal here as tethering when it comes to data usage.
    • It’s totally experimental, so it might break totally unexpectedly.
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    Google offers $20,000 for successful Chrome hack at Pwn2Own 2011

    Submitted by admin on Thu, 02/03/2011 - 08:00
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    Google isn't just bringing the Chrome Browser to Pwn2Own 2011 -- this time, it's also bringing its own hardware. The Cr-48 Chrome OS laptop will be on hand for the browser exploiting hullabaloo, and Google is offering $20,000 and a CR-48 notebook for a successful exploit. According to the event's organizer, the attacker will also need to escape Chrome's sandbox. At last year's event, prominent researcher Charlie Miller said that's no easy task, so we're very curious to see whether someone will succeed this time around.

    Offering cash for exposing vulnerabilities isn't anything new for Google, of course. The Big G just paid one developer $7,500 for finding a trio of vulnerabilities in Chrome back in January.

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    Install any OS on a Google CR-48 laptop with Luigi

    Submitted by admin on Mon, 01/03/2011 - 15:45
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    Our pal Hexxeh is at it again, only this time it's not Google's Chromium OS that he's hacking -- it's the Google Chrome OS Cr-48 laptop. We've previously shared posts about installing Ubuntu, Windows 7, and OS X on the CR-48, but the process has been a little on the complex side until now.

    Hexxeh's new tool -- Luigi -- simplifies the process greatly. As long as you can follow his 12-step program and don't mind popping open the CR-48 case for a quick bit of hardware tinkering you'll be able to install your OS of choice in no time. Once you've downloaded Luigi using wget from a Chrome OS terminal window, a firmware flash and a reboot is all that's needed to enable booting any OS installer via a USB drive.

    Check out Hexxeh's video after the break to see how the process unfolds!

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    Your princess is in another castle…

    Submitted by admin on Sun, 01/02/2011 - 22:53
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    Got a Cr-48? Want to see what’d it be like to run Windows 7 or Mac OS X on there? Now you can. Meet Luigi…

    Luigi is a firmware toolkit for the Cr-48 that lets you flash your devices firmware to load any OS unmodified. And it’s super easy to use. Once you’ve flashed over to the custom firmware, CrOS updates will probably break until you revert. Don’t fret, however! Luigi lets you flash both ways, so you can take your Cr-48 back to the state it was in when you started if you wish. However, it does require you to crack open your Cr-48. This is actually a security feature (if you can flash your firmware, so could a malicious program, and that could mean bricked device!), and so to disable it, you simply need to remove the bottom cover of your device. This does, of course, void any warranty you might have with Google and so you do so entirely at your own risk. This could, if it were to go wrong, turn your device into a shiny paperweight. Don’t come crying if it does. If you attempt to run this on a device other than a Cr-48, it will very likely brick it. However, with that said, let’s begin:

    1. Remove the casing of your Cr-48. To do this, you need to remove the battery, and the rubber towards the back of the underneath of the device. Doing this exposes two extra screws. Unscrew all the screws you can see on the underneath of the device. Once you’ve done this, the device should pry apart, starting from the back under the screen hinge. Work your way around, starting with the side with the SD card slot on. Be very careful when you do this, as you don’t want to break any of the tabs that hold the casing on.
    2. While you have the device open, go ahead and turn the developer mode switch on. You’ll need to do this to run the Luigi installer.
    3. Once the casing is removed and you’re in developer mode, lie your Cr-48 on it’s screen and plug the power cord in. Now press the power button, and then when you get to the recovery mode screen, press Control-D to boot into developer mode. If it’s the first time you’ve booted into developer mode, it’ll take around 5 minutes to erase your stateful partition. Everything is in the cloud, so you shouldn’t lose anything, remember?
    4. Once it’s booted, connect your WiFi and make sure you can get onto the internet.
    5. Press Control-Alt-F2 (Control-Alt-Forward) to open a shell. Login with the username “chronos”, no password is required.
    6. Once you’re at a shell, simply type in the following command and press enter: wget bit.ly/run-luigi && sudo bash run-luigi
    7. Luigi will then download and run, and present you with a screen with a small disclaimer. If you accept this, press enter to get to the main menu.
    8. You now have two options. Press 1 to flash the custom firmware, and then press enter.
    9. At this point, the custom firmware will be downloaded and flashed. Once it has finished, provided there are no errors, it will tell you to press enter to reboot.
    10. That’s it, your device will reboot and the new firmware will be installed.
    11. Once you’ve verified the new firmware is installed and works, put your device back together.
    12. From here, you can plug in a USB stick/USB CD drive and install an OS of your choice.
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    Now with a citrus twist…

    Submitted by admin on Tue, 12/14/2010 - 20:18
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    After a 2 month hiatus, the Vanilla builders are finally back online. I’ve done some work to bring an incremental build down to just 20 minutes. As a result of this, I may increase the frequency of builds from daily to twice daily. These are still the same Vanilla builds as before, which means we’re still shipping support for the Chrome Web Store, the fancy new login UI and so on. However, as a result of our server move, Vanilla AU is down for the time being. Rather than try to set up the hacky system I had before again, I’m going to re-implement the AU server from scratch. This will be open source, and we’ll have more details on this in the coming weeks. Which brings me to today’s second big announcement; Lime.

    ChromiumOS Lime is the successor to ChromiumOS Flow, and brings together the bleeding edge freshness of a Vanilla build and the expanded hardware support you’re used to in a Flow build. I know lots of you have been asking for an update to Flow, and I’m sorry you’ve been waiting so long. So here’s the good news. I’m aiming to release Lime within the next two weeks. It will ship with Lime AU as part of the image, but the servers will not be live at launch. The goal is to release within two weeks, but I’m not making any guarantee that it will be available within two weeks. However, we’ll be starting limited betas so that I can test on hardware I don’t own in the next week or so. If you’d like to be a part of this, then make sure you’re in the IRC channel (##hexxeh on irc.freenode.org). You can also watch the status of the builders in there, and get notified when a new Vanilla build is completed.

    Lastly, I’d like to send a huge thank you to Google: I spent the last week over in California at their Mountain View campus, and got the chance to watch the Chrome event on Tuesday with the Chrome/ChromeOS team! I had an awesome time, and it was fantastic meeting the teams! Thanks for being so supportive of my project in general.

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    How to boot Ubuntu on the Cr-48 Chrome OS netbook

    Submitted by admin on Tue, 12/14/2010 - 08:30
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    Cr-48 netbook running Ubuntu

    It was only a matter of time: a page on the Chromium Projects website has emerged, detailing how to install Ubuntu on a Cr-48 netbook. The process is, understandably, a little risky -- but it's not like there are any tech bloggers out there that don't know how to use Linux, right?

    Snarkiness aside, the process is actually very easy. You have to hack at the SSD's filesystem a little and fiddle with the Chrome OS kernel, but if you do everything right, you should be rewarded with a dual-boot system capable of running both Ubuntu and Chrome OS.

    The best bit, though, is that you have to enable 'developer mode' to escape Chrome OS's 'verified boot' security measure. To do this, you need to flip a switch on the back, under the battery, as per the hilarious instructional photo shown after the break.

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    Gmail Creator Paul Buchheit: Chrome OS Will Perish Or “Merge” With Android

    Submitted by admin on Tue, 12/14/2010 - 06:09
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    Former Googler, FriendFeed founder and Facebook-er turned investor Paul Buchheit just tweeted this zinger:

    Prediction: ChromeOS will be killed next year (or “merged” with Android)

    Considering his former employer just launched the Chrome OS pilot program last week, the comment may sting a little over at Mountain View, although it should be noted Buchheit is hardly the only one predicting that Google’s Linux-based operating system will go the way of the Wave soon enough.

    Google to date has posited that Android and Chrome OS, its two operating systems, address different markets that will remain distinct despite the growing convergence of the devices they run on (netbooks, tablets, smartphones). Google co-founder Sergey Brin, however, has very recently stated that Google will likely “produce a single OS down the road”.

    Ironically, the key architect of the Chrome OS project, Matthew Papakipos, left Google over the Summer — for a job at Facebook, Paul Buchheit’s most recent former employer.

    If the man’s less-than-140-characters prediction is right on the money, Android will become the dominant operating system – and considering its current traction, that would hardly be a surprise – while Chrome OS will perish before 2011 is over.

    Update: more from Buchheit in the FriendFeed thread:

    ChromeOS has no purpose that isn’t better served by Android (perhaps with a few mods to support a non-touch display).

    I was thinking, “is this too obvious to even state?”, but then I see people taking ChromeOS seriously, and Google is even shipping devices for some reason.

    Do you agree with his assertion, or do you think Chrome OS and Android can co-exist?

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    Panelize fixes one of Chrome OS's fundamental flaws

    Submitted by admin on Sun, 12/12/2010 - 09:00
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    Chrome OS, Panelize extension

    If you haven't played with Chrome OS yet, it has one fundamental niggle that harkens back to the DOS days of yore: windows don't exist, and it has no way of displaying multiple tabs on screen at the same time. This means if you want to refer to a document while you compose an email, you need to repetitively switch between tabs -- and I think we can all agree that tab-switching is one of the most important omissions from the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

    Chrome OS does support one way of displaying multiple Web pages at the same time, however: panels. If you've looked through our Chromium OS galleries (or taken a quick look at the screenshot above) you'll notice some always-on-top panels across the bottom of the screen. Panels are handy things -- capable of being resized, or quickly popped down out of view. By default, the download manager, popped-out Gmail chat windows and the media player display in panels -- but, for some reason, there's no way to load custom websites in panels.

    Which brings us onto our very first Chrome OS-specific extension: Panelize. With Panelize you can put anything into a panel, such as Gmail, Reader, or even Download Squad. In one fell swoop, having to switch between tabs is a thing of the past!

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    Chrome OS will have built-in Flash Player, but still a work in progress

    Submitted by admin on Fri, 12/10/2010 - 05:30
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    Although we've already seen Flash in action on Chrome OS, Adobe has come out and officially announced Flash Player for Google's newest operating system and deemed it a "work in progress." If you're expecting the kind of desktop performance you get with the latest hardware accelerated builds of Flash Player, I'm afraid you're going to be a little disappointed -- video playback performance certainly seems a little lacking. However, Adobe is committed to improving it, as "video performance in particular is the primary area for improvement," with Adobe working directly with Google engineers in an effort to enable video acceleration.

    Like the Chrome browser, Adobe's directly integrating Flash into Chrome OS, meaning that Flash will auto-update and should, combined with the robustness of the underlying Linux kernel, make Chrome OS a very secure computing platform indeed.

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    First look at Google Chrome OS: 'Nothing but the Web'

    Submitted by admin on Tue, 12/07/2010 - 15:05
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    Google Chrome OS

    The rumors are true: Google's big Chrome event today was all about Chrome OS. As expected, Chrome OS is a "nothing but the web" operating system that runs entirely on web apps, with the Chrome browser at the center of the experience. Google walked through the whole Chrome OS user experience at the event, and it really looks like a solid choice for everyday users who just want to browse, share, work and play games on the web.

    Setup for Chrome OS takes less than 60 seconds. In four steps, you can create a user account that already has access to your Google Apps data, and even carries over the themes, bookmarks and other settings from your existing Chrome browser. If you close the lid of your Chrome netbook and then open it again, your system and your internet connection resume faster than you can even type a Google Search.

    In terms of sharing, each user's data on a Chrome OS machine is kept totally separate, so you can let your family make their own accounts (or let a friend use guest mode, which starts an Incognito session) and nobody will see anybody else's browsing history. Meanwhile, anything you do in Chrome on any of your computers will be synced to your account on the others. That means you can install an app or delete a theme on your Mac or PC, and it'll sync to your Chrome OS netbook in a few seconds.

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    Google Cloud Print is now available

    Submitted by admin on Tue, 12/07/2010 - 10:05
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    With the first Chrome OS release due to be unveiled by Google later today, this really shouldn't come as a surprise: Cloud Print is now fully active. You will need the latest Chrome Developer version installed. Head to your Google Chrome about:flags page and enable the Cloud Print Proxy, and you'll be instantly plugged in.

    Your Cloud Print queue manager will display all the printers you've got installed on your computer, along with any active and recently completed print jobs. When you hover over a printer, a drop-down appears which enables you to share or delete the printer from Cloud Print.

    We'll have more on Cloud Print, Chrome OS, and the Web Store later on -- Google news will be breaking all day.

    Continue reading Google Cloud Print is now available

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    Google's YouTube uploads confirm Chrome OS, Web Store launch today

    Submitted by admin on Tue, 12/07/2010 - 06:45
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    It's no secret Google has a big announcement scheduled for 10:30 Pacific time today, and we already nearly certain that they would announce two major launches: Chrome OS and the Chrome Web Store. If there was any doubt left in your mind, the Google OS blog has snagged a handful of additional evidence.

    The official Google Chrome YouTube channel has been busy in the wee hours, uploading two new demo videos -- one for Chrome OS and one for the Web Store. The videos aren't publicly available just yet, so you'll have to let the trio of static images whet your appetite for now (take the jump for the other two captures).

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    Chrome OS launch won't happen this year

    Submitted by admin on Tue, 11/16/2010 - 08:30
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    Last month, it looked like Google Chrome OS was still on track for a Q4 2010 release -- as originally promised by Google when it announced the project. Back in June, VP of Product Management Sundar Pichai told Reuters that it was going to arrive earlier than expected. That didn't happen.

    Later, our cohorts at TechCrunch got wind of a potential release this week -- but a comment by Eric Schmidt at the Web 2.0 Summit seems to have doused the flames. According to Schmidt, Chrome OS will launch "in the next few months." That, of course, means no Christmastime Chromebooks, and it makes launching in time for CES seem unlikely as well, since that's just seven weeks off.

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    Google Chrome Beta 8.0.552.200 update adds polish to Chrome OS

    Submitted by admin on Fri, 11/12/2010 - 09:00
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    With support for four different operating systems, three official build channels (four on Windows) and the Chromium open source browser all being worked on feverishly by Google, there's a chance that some updates aren't going to make much difference to you. The Chrome Beta 8.0.552.200 likely falls into that category. While the new build does include several fixes for other platforms (like mitigating a bug with NetNanny on Windows), the release is jam-packed with tweaks to Chrome OS.

    Network and wireless-related code has received a lot of attention -- from retrieving your data plan from your cellular provider to 3G activation. Revision 65021 also mentions chrome:mobilesetup, from where you'll be able to activate and deactivate your connection. You can't, of course, fire up a Beta version of Chrome OS yet, but if you could you'd notice several minor interface tweaks and changes to wording. Missing icons have been added, the log-in screen now tells new users "Let's get started!" and "Shutdown" text has been changed to "Shut Down." These are the kind of granular changes you'd expect to see being applied just before taking the wraps off something, so maybe we're finally getting close to either the launch of the Chrome Web Store or Chrome OS itself -- or both!

    As for changes that affect the rest of us, there aren't many. Among them: the Hunspell dictionary has been updated to the most recent version, and app tabs should now come to the foreground after you launch one from the apps section of your New Tab page.

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